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the_EDJ
the_EDJ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
Yards : 7633
Swagger : 37
LocationOmaha, NE
Fave NFL Team : Chicago Bears
Fave NCAA Team : Nebraska Cornhuskers

League Discussion: Trades Empty League Discussion: Trades

Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:14 pm
It's that time of year again. It's time to offer input on your wishes or opinions on certain franchise topics. Madden is about a month away, so we have plenty of time to pass until we get our hands on the game, but we might as well get the boring stuff out of the way during this time.

In the past, I've set a strict trade rules. I did this to limit any newbies from defacing a roster and bolting or getting themselves booted, and also to emulate the real NFL trade market.  This year, things are a bit different and I've compiled a year and a half of trades to back things up. Any arguments that have the chance to persuade me to adjust rules will need precedents to back it up.

This year I plan to run a bit more of a "stricter" league in the sense of limited user team membership to only those that match with the rest of the usual members instead of allowing mass amounts of players to sign up and see who sticks. But that's a different discussion.

Madden 13/Madden 25 Trade Rules wrote:Trades
--Probation Period: A new owner (having never played in the league) must complete 1 user game in the regular season before they can trade players. Every owner must have at least 1 Scouting Report written by the user they faced. They must also write at least one scouting report on their opponent.
--Restrictions: Players rated 88 Ovr and higher are untradeable. No CPU trades. All trade offers must be posted and approved by both parties in a trade thread, and approved by the commissioner, or co-commissioner.

 Exclamation Proposed rules for Madden 15:
-- Probation Period: An owner must complete 1 user game in the regular season before they can post a trade block and/or trade players.  Every owner must have at least 1 Scouting Report written by a user they faced. They must also write at least one scouting report on a fellow user.
Idea I cannot find word if the XBox's "CoachGlass" type of feature will be made available for PS4 users or not. Microsoft's SmartGlass is XBox exclusive, but you never know if a multi-platform solution is in the works.  If so, we may be able to explore posting screen captures of user stats for self scouting reports.

-- Base Trade Restrictions: Players rated 88 Overall and higher cannot be traded. Players given the Franchise Tag in the offseason can be traded.  All trade offers must be posted and approved by both teams in a trade thread, and finalized by the _______.
Question  Deciding between trade rulings via Commissioner, and/or Co-commissioner, or Trade Committee (2/3 vote).
Question  CPU trades I'm undecided on.

-- Exceptions: Players can win exceptions to allow the trade of an 88-93 overall rated player.
Question  I'm playing with the idea of creating awards or boosts for players granting possible exceptions in trades for different league accomplishments and scenarios. The idea is to add competitive balance if a team is struggling.  The second aspect is to add another game element to try and keep everyone involved season-long regardless of their record.  What those boosts are, I'm not sure yet, ideas are welcome.  It's tough to balance the trade rule for NFL authenticity, and how to get the most gameplay experience out of Madden. But give me credit, I'm trying right?

Let us hear your thoughts. Below I've posted a trade history and different numbers for reference.
the_EDJ
the_EDJ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
Yards : 7633
Swagger : 37
LocationOmaha, NE
Fave NFL Team : Chicago Bears
Fave NCAA Team : Nebraska Cornhuskers

League Discussion: Trades Empty Re: League Discussion: Trades

Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:14 pm
2013 Trades
Year
Team Receives
Pos
Player/Pick
Rating
Traded for
Team Receives
Pos
Player/Pick
Rating
Notes
2013
49ers
WR
Anquan Boldin
91
traded for

Ravens
#199
6th Rd Pick
N/A
Severe Cap Issues
2013ChiefsQBAlex Smith87traded for
49ers#342nd Rd PickN/ADepth
 




Future2nd Rd PickN/A 
2013
Seahawks
WR
Percy Harvin
91
traded for

Vikings
#25
1st Rd Pick
N/A
Personality issues; Migraine issues; Drafted 1st Rd Replacement; Outlier


 










Future
3rd Rd Pick
N/A
 

 
 
 
 


 
#214
7th Rd Pick
N/A
 
2013EaglesWRArrelious Benn73traded for
Buccaneers#1966th Rd PickN/A 
 #2187th Rd PickN/Atraded for
     
2013ColtsFBStanley Havili78traded for
EaglesDEClifton Geathers68 
201349ersQBColt McCoy73traded for
Browns#1645th Rd PickN/A 
 #1736th Rd PickN/Atraded for

#2277th Rd PickN/A 
2013RaidersQBMatt Flynn74traded for
SeahawksFuturePickN/ADepth
    
 Future5th Rd PickN/A 
2013CardinalsQBCarson Palmer85traded for
Raiders#1766th Rd PickN/ADepth; Cap Space
 #2197th Rd PickN/Atraded for

Future7th Rd PickN/A 
2013EaglesMLBEmmanuel Acho65traded for
BrownsRBDion Lewis71 
2013
Buccaneers
CB
Darrelle Revis
97
traded for

Jets
#13
1st Rd Pick
N/A
Critically bad trade; Injury issues led to contract issues; Drafted Top 10 Replacement; Outlier

    
 #1044th Rd PickN/A 
2013JetsRBChris Ivory81traded for
Saints#1064th Rd PickN/ADepth
2013BrownsWRDavone Bess73traded for
Dolphins#1044th Rd PickN/ADepth
2013 #1114th Rd PickN/Atraded for
 #1645th Rd PickN/A 
 #2177th Rd PickN/A




 
2013PatriotsRBLeGarrette Blount83traded for
BuccaneersRBJeff Demps63Off-field issues; On-field issues
 



#2297th Rd PickN/A 
2013BillsDEJerry Hughes83traded for
ColtsMLBKelvin Sheppard71Scheme Change
2013CardinalsCBJavier Arenas76traded for
ChiefsFBAnthony Sherman86 
2013RavensCAQ Shipley72traded for
Colts#2327th Rd PickN/A 
2013Bears#1836th Rd PickN/Atraded for
BuccaneersOTGabe Carimi75 
2013EaglesWR Jeff Maehl64traded for
TexansOGNate Menkin66 
2013ChiefsWR AJ Jenkins69traded for
49ersWRJonathan Baldwin72 
2013SeahawksDTSealver Siliga67traded for
BroncosOGJohn MoffittNR 
2013RavensRBDelone Carter72traded for
ColtsWRDavid ReedNR 
2013EaglesOLBAdrian Robinson61traded for
SteelersRBFelix Jones73 
2013LionsMLBChris White61traded for
BillsQBThaddeus Lewis73 
2013SaintsOLBParys Haralson82traded for
49ers#2427th Rd PickN/A 
2013CowboysOLBEdgar Jones67traded for
Chiefs#1936th Rd PickN/A 
 #2387th Rd PickN/A




 
2013SeahawksDTD'Anthony Smith65traded for
JaguarsFuturePickN/A 
2013ChargersDTSean Lissemore74traded for
CowboysFuture7th Rd PickN/AScheme Change
2013BearsTEDante Rosario76traded for
Cowboys#2297th Rd PickN/A 
2013ColtsOLBCam Johnson65traded for
49ersFuture7th Rd PickN/A 
2013CowboysMLBCasear RayfordNRtraded for
ColtsFuture7th Rd PickN/A 
2013ColtsRBTrent Richardson80traded for
Browns#261st Rd PickN/A 
2013
Ravens
OL
Eugene Monroe
90
traded for

Jaguars
#114
4th Rd Pick
N/A
Drafted Top 10 Replacement

 
 
 
 


 
#159
5th Rd Pick
N/A
 
2013SteelersOLLevi Brown73traded for
Cardinals PickN/A 
2013DolphinsOLBryant McKinnie79traded for
RavensFuture7th Rd PickN/A 
2013PatriotsDTIsaac Sopoago77traded for
EaglesFuture5th Rd PickN/A 
 #1986th Rd PickN/A
     


Last edited by the_EDJ on Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:38 pm; edited 2 times in total
the_EDJ
the_EDJ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
Yards : 7633
Swagger : 37
LocationOmaha, NE
Fave NFL Team : Chicago Bears
Fave NCAA Team : Nebraska Cornhuskers

League Discussion: Trades Empty Re: League Discussion: Trades

Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:14 pm
2014 Trades
   
YearTeam ReceivesPosPlayer/PickRatingTraded forTeam ReceivesPosPlayer/PickRatingNotes
2014BillsRBBryce Brown77traded forEaglesFuture4th Rd PickN/A 
 #2377th Rd PickN/Atraded for
#2247th Rd PickN/A 
201449ersQBBlaine Gabbert70traded forJaguars#2056th Rd PickN/ADepth; Coaching change
201449ersOLJonathan Martin77traded forDolphinsFuture7th Rd PickN/AOff-field issues
2014EaglesRBDarren Sproles87traded forSaints#1695th Rd PickN/ACap cut turned trade
2014RaidersQBMatt Schaub77traded forTexans#1816th Rd PickN/ADepth; Coaching change
2014RavensOLJeremy Zuttah81traded forBuccaneersFuturePickN/A 
2014BillsWR Mike Williams83traded forBuccaneers#1856th Rd PickN/APersonality issues
2014SeahawksQBTerrelle Pryor75traded forRaiders#2477th Rd PickN/A 
201449ersWR Stevie Johnson90traded forBillsFuture4th Rd PickN/ADepth; Contract issues; Drafted Top 10 Replacement
2014FalconsQBTJ Yates74traded forTexansLBAkeem Dent75Depth; Coaching change
2014CowboysLBRolando McClainNRtraded forRavensFuture6th Rd PickN/AOff-field issues
 Future7th Rd PickN/Atraded for     
Trades highlighted in red would be in violation of base trade restrictions.


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the_EDJ
the_EDJ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
Yards : 7633
Swagger : 37
LocationOmaha, NE
Fave NFL Team : Chicago Bears
Fave NCAA Team : Nebraska Cornhuskers

League Discussion: Trades Empty Re: League Discussion: Trades

Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:15 pm
Trade Precedents
1:1 Player/Player Precedents

1:1 Player/Pick Precedents
Pos
Rating
 
Pos
Rating

PosRating RoundPick in RdOverall Pick*
QB
74
for
MLB
75

QB77for6th13th#181 
QB
73
for
MLB
61

QB75for7th32nd#247 
RB
73
for
OLB
61

QB70for6th29th#205 
RB
72
for
WR
NR

RB87for5th29th#169 
RB
71
for
MLB
65

RB81for4th9th#106 
FB
78
for
DE
68

RB80for1st26th#26 
FB
86
for
CB
76

FB
for


 
WR
72
for
WR
69

WR91for6th31st#199*
WR
69
for
WR
72

WR 90for4thTBDTBD**
WR
64
for
OG
66

WR 83for6th9th#185 
WR
NR
for
RB
72

TE76for7th23rd#229 
TE


for


 

OT75for6th7th#183 
OT


for


 

OL81forFutureTBDTBD 
OG
66
for
WR
64

OL79forFuture 7TBDTBD 
OG
NR
for
DT
67

OL77forFuture 7TBDTBD 
C


for


 

OL73forFutureTBDTBD 
DE
83
for
MLB
71

C72for7th17th#232 
DE
68
for
FB
78

DE
for


 
DT
67
for
OG
NR

DT74forFuture 7TBDTBD 
OLB
61
for
RB
73

DT65forFutureTBDTBD 
MLB
75
for
QB
74

OLB82for7th27th#242 
MLB
71
for
DE
83

OLB65forFuture 7TBDTBD 
MLB
65
for
RB
71

MLBNRforFuture 7TBDTBD 
MLB
61
for
QB
73

CB
for


 
CB
76
for
FB
86

FS
for


 
FS


for


 

SS for    
SS
 
for
 
 














*Outlier: 49ers/Ravens Anquan Boldin Trade






**Outlier: 49ers/Bills Stevie Johnson Trade


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the_EDJ
the_EDJ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
Yards : 7633
Swagger : 37
LocationOmaha, NE
Fave NFL Team : Chicago Bears
Fave NCAA Team : Nebraska Cornhuskers

League Discussion: Trades Empty Re: League Discussion: Trades

Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:15 pm
Trade Precedents
1:2 Player/Pick Precedents
PosRatingn/a PosRating RoundPick in RdOverall Pick RoundPick in RdOverall Pick*
QB
87
 
for 
 
and/or2nd
2nd
#34
and/or
Future 2
TBD
TBD
 
QB
74


for



and/or5th
TBD
TBD
and/or
Future
TBD
TBD
 
RB
83


forRB
63
and/or7th
23rd
#229
and/or






 
FB




for



and/or





and/or






 
WR




for



and/or





and/or






 
TE




for



and/or





and/or






 
OT
90


for



and/or4th
14th
#114
and/or
5th
19th
#159
****
OG




for



and/or





and/or






 
C




for



and/or





and/or






 
DE




for



and/or





and/or






 
DT




for



and/or





and/or






 
OLB




for



and/or





and/or






 
MLB




for



and/or





and/or






 
CB
97


for



and/or1st
13th
#13
and/or
Future 4
TBD
TBD
***
FS




for



and/or





and/or






 
SS




for



and/or





and/or






 
RoundPick in RdOverall Pick





RoundPick in RdOverall Pick
RoundPick in RdOverall Pick 
 




forQB


and/or





and/or






 
 




forRB


and/or





and/or






 
 




forFB


and/or





and/or






 
6th


#196
forWR
73
and/or7th
3rd
#218
and/or






 
 




forTE


and/or





and/or






 
 




forOL


and/or





and/or






 
 




forDE


and/or





and/or






 
Future 5
TBD
TBD
forDT
77
and/or6th
22nd
#198
and/or






 
6th


#193
forOLB
67
and/or7th
23rd
#238
and/or






 
Future 6
TBD
TBD
forMLB
NR
and/orFuture 7
TBD
TBD
and/or






*****
 




forCB


and/or





and/or






 
 




forFS


and/or





and/or






 
 
 
 
forSS
 
and/or 
 
 
and/or
 
 
 
 


















***Outlier: Revis trade: Injury based contract dispute.





****Drafted Top 10 Replacement pick received.






*****Outlier: Cannot replicate in game setting.






             
2:2 Player/Pick Precedents
PosRatingn/a RoundPick in RdOverall PickRoundPick in RdOverall PickRoundPick in RdOverall Pick*
QB
85
 &7th
13th
#219
for6th
 
#176
&Future 7
TBD
TBD
 
QB
73

&6th
5th
#173
for5th


#164
&7th
11th
#227
 
RB
77
 &7th
22nd
#237
for7th
 
#224
&Future 4
TBD
TBD
 
                 
2:3 Player/Pick Precedents
Pos/RdRating/PickOverall PickPos/RdRating/PickOverall PickPos/RdRating/PickOverall PickRoundPick in RdOverall PickRoundPick in RdOverall Pick*
4th
7th
#104
&5th
31st
#164
forWR
73
 &4th
14th
#111
&7th
11th
#217
 


Last edited by the_EDJ on Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:57 pm; edited 2 times in total
the_EDJ
the_EDJ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
Yards : 7633
Swagger : 37
LocationOmaha, NE
Fave NFL Team : Chicago Bears
Fave NCAA Team : Nebraska Cornhuskers

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Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:37 pm
Assorted Trade Numbers
1:1 Player Trades11
1:1 Player:Pick Trades21
1:2 Player:Pick Trades9
1:3 Player:Pick Trades1*
2:2 Player:Pick Trades3
2:3 Player:Pick Trades1
 



90's Overall5*High 90's1


Low 90's4
80's Overall9*High 80's3


Low 80's6
70's Overall21High 70's8


Low 70's13
60's Overall9High 60's5


Low 60's4
Not Rated4*



Highest Rating97


Average Rating75


Lowest Rating61
*Included at least one trade exception.


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the_EDJ
the_EDJ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
Yards : 7633
Swagger : 37
LocationOmaha, NE
Fave NFL Team : Chicago Bears
Fave NCAA Team : Nebraska Cornhuskers

League Discussion: Trades Empty Re: League Discussion: Trades

Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:51 pm
Trade Exception/Boost ideas:

 Exclamation Jumpstart Boost: A player with a true Top 10 draft pick (not obtained via trade) can trade an 88+ rated player to fill another hole on their team with the requirement that they replace the traded player by using their Top 10 pick on a player with the same position.
Example: 4/5 of the red trades above included the team drafting a player to replace the one traded.


 Exclamation IR Boost: Awarded if a player that ranks in the Top 10 league-wide in that team's proficiency is placed on the IR for 8 or more games. e.g. Passing team loses Pocket QB or WR, or rushing team loses RB, or rush defense loses key tackler or pass defense loses sack artist.
Proficiency: At start of season, choose whether your team will be focused on one aspect of the game, or just base off which category the team ranks higher in league-wide.


 Exclamation Up and Coming Boost: A team with a true Top 15 pick (not obtained via trade) can swap their Top 15 3rd Rd pick with any other user's 2nd or 3rd round pick as long as it is within 15 picks.
I'd figure this idea would be contested, but just a thought.

 Exclamation Critical Acclaim Boost:  A user player that wins both an AI-based and User-selected award with the same player gets a trade exception. e.g. MVP or Offensive Rookie of the Year.

 Exclamation Swami Saw It Coming Boost:  A designated pre-season "player to watch" becomes a user-selected award winner at season's end.

 Exclamation Math is Hard Boost: Awarded to a team that's over the cap in the off-season, or if a player is holding out and cannot be signed under the cap.
Obviously assuming players can hold out in Madden 15.

 Exclamation "Dibs" Boost: A bottom 10 team can opt to forfeit two earned trade exception boosts to prevent all other user teams from bidding on a free agent of their choice. Does not guarantee them the signing of the player as CPU teams can still bid. If, after two of the three bidding stages nobody has bid on the player, they're fair game for everyone.

Exclamation Media Mogul: The user with the best shared content (weekly recap posts, Sportscenter posts, league stories, highlight videos, etc.) can be voted to receive a boost.

 Like a Star @ heaven Playoff teams would not be eligible.
 Like a Star @ heaven Rule-breakers would not be eligible.
 Like a Star @ heaven Previously earned boosts would expire if the team makes the playoffs.
 Like a Star @ heaven Two boosts can be combined to exceed the 93 overall rating limit.
 Like a Star @ heaven Boosts would not be able to be transferred.
 Like a Star @ heaven Only 1 trade exception can be made within a 2 year period.
 Like a Star @ heaven Face of Franchise players like Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Adrian Peterson, Tom Brady, etc would still be untradeable.

This idea is incredibly complex, but could also be rewarding. The idea is to help keep league parity, and give anyone struggling a chance to make a run a bit quicker.  I'm curious how everyone would feel about it.


Last edited by the_EDJ on Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:40 pm; edited 1 time in total
mission8
mission8
Madden 12, 25, 15, 16 SB Champ
Madden 12, 25, 15, 16 SB Champ
Yards : 711
Swagger : 17
LocationSpringboro,OH
Fave NFL Team : Washington Redskins

League Discussion: Trades Empty Re: League Discussion: Trades

Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:25 pm
Wow, thats alot of info. 

With new owners- with the ps4, we can record and stream games. So cheesers can be caught pretty quickly. We can set up a facebook page that everyone can upload their games or clips of games.

On trades- Its hard to find a players value from madden to the real NFL. Mid 70s Madden players can be studs depending on ratings that matter. 
I know if I am building a team and have some older 90 overall players that wont resign or want big money, I should be able to trade them for whatever I can get. Or maybe I have a 95 spd rb 70 ovr that I like better than my 90 ovr rb. Shouldnt I be allowed to trade him for players at different positions to help the team?
Just my thoughts
xHaVoC83x
xHaVoC83x
Redshirt
Redshirt
Yards : 259
Swagger : 10
LocationIllinois
Fave NFL Team : Oakland Raiders

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Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:46 am
I feel that forcing people to write up a scouting report should be optional. No one has got time for that! Granted yes some people do but from what I saw last year.... A LOT of people don't(including myself) So I for one feel that t should be optional or at least changed
GoingCommandoAZ
GoingCommandoAZ
Madden 12 Super Bowl Champ
Madden 12 Super Bowl Champ
Yards : 1095
Swagger : 36
LocationPhoenix, AZ
Fave NFL Team : Minnesota Vikings
Fave NCAA Team : Florida Gators

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Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:32 am
I think the OVR rating should be fluid as they vary depending on schemes too.  My 88 ovr may be a 91 ovr on a different team, just something to consider.

I agree with Mission, older players should be part of the exception as well as players that won't resign too.  Trading away a 33 y.o. 91 rated Greenway isn't terrible and if a team has space to absorb his salary and I don't want to pay him that much (see Anquan Boldin).  If I'm trying to resign a guy and he turns down my offer and is going to be a FA, trying to get something of value for him would be a good option to have.

I actually like the scouting reports Havoc.  It's nice to read through them before playing a game and can be pretty helpful.  Since you record your games, you could just post a link to the game and let that be your review right?   Wink

Boosts are a good idea too.  It could work out, especially if it's a group of vets and won't be stupid about trades in general.
the_EDJ
the_EDJ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
NCAA 11, 12, 14; Madden 15, 18 Champ
Yards : 7633
Swagger : 37
LocationOmaha, NE
Fave NFL Team : Chicago Bears
Fave NCAA Team : Nebraska Cornhuskers

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Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:00 pm
Adding some further thoughts. I'm sorry about the messy tables, they look awful when the forum formats them. It's really just a regurgitation of the first table in different forms. Stripping names and looking at ratings involved with each trade and breaking down the different elements of each trade to use as as a way to set precedent for realistic trades.


@mission
Madden ratings are not a breakdown of how much a player can produce. But it is a great indicator of a player's caliber. Elite caliber players just don't get traded in a normal situation in the NFL. It's often due to off-the-field issues. Almost everything in the NFL revolves around the draft and free agency. Limiting trades fuels the free agent pool. Of those 5 trades, maybe 2 of them can be emulated, and they all involved draft picks. Four of the five picks involved drafting that players replacement with a first round pick.

Five 90+ rated players (Madden 25 scale) have been traded since the beginning of 2013.
Anquan Boldin: Severe cap issues. Couldn't resign him and he threatened retirement if I recall.
Percy Harvin: Drafted First Round replacement.  Personality clashes between him and team, and the whole migraine saga.
Darrelle Revis: Drafted Top 10 replacement.  Coming off a knee injury, wasn't sure if he'd be able to play. Outlier trade.
Eugene Monroe: Drafted Top 10 replacement. Really no issues, Jags just didn't want to pay him.
Stevie Johnson: Drafted Top 10 replacement. Personality issues with staff.


@Havoc
I've never mandated weekly scouting reports. But requiring a minimum of one being written was always used as a way to ensure that the user understands what we mean sim to be, and that others viewed their matchup as sim, and hopefully show that they're committed to being active in the league.  And as Commando said, with your video prowess, you can always embed matchups.  In general, it only takes a few minutes to post a report. I never expect an essay. A game lasts an hour, what's another 5 minutes to recap the game?


@Commando
Scheme fit does affect a player's overall rating as it should. A 4-3 DE will rate less as a 3-4 DE, and would allow more flexibility in allowing a player to be traded if a team was looking to switch defenses.  Of course it will be expected that a user does not take advantage of the AI ratings to lower a player's ratings they want to change.

Overall, where's the precedent that older players get traded just because they're older? Trying to emulate a sim league, the players just don't get swapped around that easily.  Watching leagues other members are in, it's absurd to see players like Adrian Peterson get traded for Jordy Nelson and Eddie Lacy whether the owners were active/good guys or not. There's so much wrong with that scenario.
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Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:17 pm
I am loving everything that you are proposing. Keep it up!
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Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:21 pm
I think we should have an exception for a player thats in the final year of his current deal!
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Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:33 pm
I won't get too long-winded because I think at the core we just differ on how sim a sim league should run, but I agree more with what Mission and Commando have said just because I hate playing with players whose real life teams were dumb enough to lock them up long term with a dumb contract, whether it's too much money or too many years. I guess releasing a player is always possible in that scenario, but I don't view a Greenway (for example) trade to seem preposterous.

I guess on one hand I think that this league is largely composed of vets who understand what we are doing here, so I don't think there need to be that many trade rules aside from both teams having a logical reasoning for the deal. But on the other hand I know that leaves "reasonable" as pretty subjective and would probably lead to dispute at some point, so some type of cemented regulations are probably necessary.

Just do whatever and the dudes will abide.


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Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:47 am
I just wanna add this perspective on trades, in support of keeping trading flexible. To go back to what Commando said, using an example of trading a guy like Greenway: The NFL is indeed fueled by draft and somewhat  Free Agency, but the difference is that we know here in the AALOA that we are only getting through a few seasons. Our ideas of building for the future aren't like a real GM in that after a few seasons we essentially start over with a new Madden. So the timetable for turnaround is considerably smaller. We can't look 5-6 years down the road because it's just not there.

So that would probably be my strongest argument for keeping trading more flexible. The fact that there really isn't the longevity needed to make a "sim style" building process. There are some powerhouse rosters out there and I think the weak teams especially should be able to make a few moves to better themselves to be more competitive.
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